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September 12, 2014
I’m not sure which TOpic to place this question under. It’s related to using Flash.
I use a small umbrella alot. I understand, as their are more people in a shot, i’d have to stand further away to fit them in, meaning also that my flash wouldn’t matter so much as far as “modeling light”. So really, i figure that the best use of an umbrella is for single or up to about 3 people because it’s for modeling light.
Now, i understand that since i don’t want that flat flash look, i could underexpose my flash alot still if they are pretty much silouetted, and it would only effect the darkest shadow areas BEFORE affecting the rest of the silouette. That’s good. Even if the flash is still under exposed some, at least the eye sockets, under chin shadows will be the first to go.
I can bring up the rest of the overall silouette figures in lightroom. This way i can avoid some of the shiny flash skin, but still using it to lift those poeckets of darkest shadow areas.
Oksana, how would you go about illuminating a silouetted (against say, the sun as backlight)? Is using on camera flash for that really bad because it’s not modled light? (if i don’t have anywhere to bounce, or it’s more than 4 people or so).
I can’t really use off camera flash , or it would have some people’s faces in shadow because of the cast shadows oe each other.
August 11, 2011
There is no one fix all scenario. It all depends how many people you have and how you pose them. On camera flash does give you a flatter look, then off camera flash. You do have to watch for shadows casted by people on each other, if they are posed in a few rows. You want to raze flash higher and put people heads on different levels to avoid that. If you have a very large group – more them one flash might be a good idea to light them more evenly. Also it depends how large your group is and how far do you have to step back to fit everyone in. Some flashes are more powerful then others and the further you are from you subject, the less powerful the flash will be, but at the same time it will give you a better quality of light. So you will have to find a happy medium..
September 12, 2014
Thanks Oksana for your reply. I’m obessieve not taker! Better to look at tutorials/articles on photography all day every day instead of what’s on T.V. nowadays.
Yes, lighting a group, mainly outdoors with off camera flash is tough. Indoors not much a problem because of bounce flash.
I found some articles on flash with outdoor groups and noticed smaller groups, and they didn’t have their heads all butted close together (family shots). When i take photos of the filipino group i go to occasionally, weather smaller (5 people) or big..25 people, they are not posing like a family portrait in a field of grass. Heads very very close to each other. Yes, that’s different and very tricky with flash. Seems the best thing for that is to just forget flash alltogether and bring up shadows in lightroom (these are not important photos and i do not get paid ever).
Even small 5 people groups…you can’t tell them anything, they are so hyper and just overly excited…so it’s entirely up to me with MY light.
Like you say……..just LOOK FOR IT and be aware of those kind of things. EXPERIENCE
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