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January 5, 2016
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At a friend’s house. I made about $50 on some prints. I usually spend about 9 hours one day and sometimes nearly that much time the following day on some of these “events” year round. But rarely get asked if i can make a print. It’s alot of work..i think of wedding photographers etc and how they make hundreds in one event. I do this probably a couple times per month and only at Christmas possibly one print here or there year round do i make a few bucks. It’s not worth complaining about because on one hand i enjoy it, but most often just get a “like” on facebook for all those hours each time. It’s one of those things where I have to decide “is it worth all the work”? I enjoy it, but is it appreciated??

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Ok, now we need to talk about self value, which a lot of photographer have issue with. I wasn’t an exception at the beginning. People will not value your work unless you do. If you do it all the time and spend tons of time doing it, it is not really just a hobby anymore. I see you retouch them and everything. I know how much time it takes. 

First of all if you post those on Facebook, there is no way somebody will buy them (maybe sometimes, as an exception). People will copy it, save it, some people will even try to print it without even thinking that quality it bad. 

Instead you should use some websites, which will let your customers to order prints, like Zenfolio or SmugMug for example. Then you can post a link to the gallery on Facebook for them to check photos out with option to purchase. 

I would probably let them know before photographing them that they will be able to purchase photos later, if they want to. No pressure! 
Most of the time people think that it cost you nothing to take photos. Just pick up the camera. They have no clue about everything behind it. Unless you put a price on it. 

“Friends” (except true friend) is probably the worst. I had friends who I photographed for free for years. Then when I open my business and had tons of business expenses, the same friends were not happy that I started to charge for my services even with a huge discount to them. 

My thing is if my friends have a business (hair dresser, lawyer, bakery, etc. ) I will support them without even asking for discount. I need the service anyway, why would I go somewhere else. If they want to give me a discount or do it for free, I will argue about it. And if they push it, I will offer some of my services in return. 

The same with photography. People should not expect you to do it for free even your friends. Unfortunately most people are not thinking that way, until you put price on it yourself. 

You need to decide for yourself if you want it to be your part time business, make it official and treat it as such or it is just a hobby you spend tons of precious time on. 

February 7, 2016
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Thanks Oksana for understanding it so well. That’s just it…………..they are all basically my WIFE’S friends (filipino).

And it’s exactly as you say.  I could send them the link like you said, ……..and i am trying not to be negative here..but you know how that goes. I’ll check out those sites you mention though out of curiousity. I’ve been and they’ve been……on facebook for years and then when I exclusively start to show them on a site that advertises to sell them……..i KNOW what they’ll all be thinking…they just won’t buy any from me ever again. Right now, I’m selling a few prints here or there to certain ones (majority will never buy them). So i make 20$ here and there every few montsh if I’m lucky!

That might not last though becuase the same people are not going to just keep buyibng and buying.

So, this is my predicament. Yea, they see them now on a selling site and they not only won’t buy them but they wont’ LIKE ME!! and show me by not buying. (i won’t even know if anyone sees them maybe because of no “like buttons”.

I thought about this before, but i really should start to just take photos as usual, but just delete the ones I know are from those that won’t even click “like” after all my trouble. I need to start being selective.

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I replied already in other post, but do those people who you think will not like you do anything for you. If they are hairdressers, do they give you a free haircut? If they are a lawyers, do they give you free consultations? If they have a restaurant, do you eat there for free? You need to decide for yourself, do you want to be a photographer and make some money with it or if it is just a hobby and you just doing it for fun. Obviously you are not happy with situation and it is not that much fun anymore, if you are asking me those questions. Also if they have those event almost every month with the same people, it is probably not that special for them anymore to have pictures from every event, especially printed. You can’t blame them for it. I would just stop doing it, if you think you are waisting your time. There brobably more interesting subjects, when the same people parting. I love your artistic photos. 

April 9, 2016
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Oksana……you’d THINK they would get tired of having their photos taken………….You’d have to see my facebook! It’s every day year after year. Here i am at the restaurant. Here i am relaxing at the pool..My wife and several of her friends post several photos of them selves 6 days a week after their workout. Only lately am i finally trying to just get away from facebook. These people are fanatics and hooked on it. That’s why i don’t like the idea of encouraging it even more by ME taking photos of them. I guess it’s fine for their circle of friends to continually pat each other’s backs all the time on the self image, but i find it self centered.

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In this time and age people love to take pictures, first of all because they have their phone with camera available with them at all times + they can upload them on Facebook right away. It does give them self esteem when people comment on them. I usually don’t take my camera to a regular get togethers (unless it is some important event). If you want picture by me, you got to come to me and it will cost you. They know if I take their photo it will be special and it will get more likes and comments then any of their selfies. I find nothing wrong with patting each other back. It would be worse if they did opposite. What ever makes you happy. If they pat each other back, they are not only self centers, but also each other centered. 

May 10, 2016
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I’ve been just avoiding facebook…best thing to do for me. It’s a breeding ground for all that kind of activity…jealousy, attention, popularity..

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patindaytona said
I’ve been just avoiding facebook…best thing to do for me. It’s a breeding ground for all that kind of activity…jealousy, attention, popularity..

I could not agree more.  Facebook and Twitter are NOT good things for us or our children.  People are forgetting how to converse with each other and truly be social.  Social Media is anything but “social”.  Talk, don’t Tweet.  

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At first it was all good wasn’t it….but it’s really addicting and i see that in alot of people on it.

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