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February 14, 2013
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My friends from Heaven’s Cry, at their recent album launch.

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February 14, 2013
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I really think you did a great job on this one.
Good focus and bright, vivid colours in a darker
than desirable setting.
Really nice capture!
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February 15, 2013
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cool.
in the right, bottom corner… do I see a bottle of beer? ;)
if yes, why only one?
B.S.E.

February 15, 2013
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@Dale: This was the first time I was shooting a show with the D7000. I am quite happy with the result.

@b.s.e: they are playing complex progressive rock, and they are older… :)

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February 17, 2013
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Very nice picture. Good colours. The bass player is moving quite a bit but the other two fellows are more concentrated on the guitars. What was your settings? I’m getting very upset with my D7000 ISO, it’s almost impossible to make photos with 1250 without notice some noise. What’s your experience on it?

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Daniela… Unlike many recent photo postings, the camera settings are actually available in the file’s properties.
f/2.8, 1/100 sec., 17mm, bias, -0.7, no flash and……………… ISO-4000 (that’s 3 zeros).

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February 17, 2013
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Daniela, you can’t escape noise. Lightroom does a very good job with it though. As Mandrake said, this was shot at ISO 4000, and it is almost full frame. Of course, if you crop, you will see it much more. Here is about a 1:1 crop of the picture. This is a crop of the image, without any resizing.

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Unless you print it on a 24 x 36 inches paper, it is acceptable. Well for me at least.

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February 18, 2013
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Brunogallant
That looks about right @ ISO 4000 – I’ve had similar results with
my D7000 at higher ISO’s too.
Daniela – I use Lightroom to reduce the grain and it works quite well.
Have to be careful not to get carried away with it though or the picture
will definitely take on a soft appearance – better to leave the grain if that
happens.
Dale.Smile

February 18, 2013
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I’m jealous of all your new fancier whiz bang cameras. My current one has a max ISO of 1600, I also nicknamed that ISO “crap” since the noise is awful at that setting, not so great at 800 either. I just keep telling myself that shooting with an inferior camera teaches me more lol.

edit- Bruno, not sure if you have shot other concerts but is it not one of the most challenging settings you can imagine, you’re brain has so little downtime with lights changing brightness and color and the band moving around depending on how animated they are. So fun :-)

Do you have a link to bands page so we can here some of songs?

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MHP Mike said

I’m jealous of all your new fancier whiz bang cameras. My current one has a max ISO of 1600, I also nicknamed that ISO “crap” since the noise is awful at that setting, not so great at 800 either. I just keep telling myself that shooting with an inferior camera teaches me more lol.

edit- Bruno, not sure if you have shot other concerts but is it not one of the most challenging settings you can imagine, you’re brain has so little downtime with lights changing brightness and color and the band moving around depending on how animated they are. So fun :-)

Do you have a link to bands page so we can here some of songs?

It is quite challenging, but really fun. I have shot concerts for friends bands since 2002, starting with film, then with a Nikon D200, then with the D7000. It is way much easier now with the D7000 than ever before, but having glass at f/2.8 at least is still what you need, but with the high ISO range you can shoot at speeds higher than 1/60, which makes a lot of difference. You still shoot with spot metering, trying to catch people’s face as they move, and you shoot like crazy. I did about 650 exposures in 80 minutes on that show.

The new cameras have more options. It is a tool, does nothing without an artistic mind behind the viewfinder. I take great pictures with the camera on my Galaxy Tab 7″. I would not shoot a concert with it though.

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February 19, 2013
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I’m jealous of all your new fancier whiz bang cameras. My current one has a max ISO of 1600, I also nicknamed that ISO “crap” since the noise is awful at that setting, not so great at 800 either. I just keep telling myself that shooting with an inferior camera teaches me more lol.

edit- Bruno, not sure if you have shot other concerts but is it not one of the most challenging settings you can imagine, you’re brain has so little downtime with lights changing brightness and color and the band moving around depending on how animated they are. So fun :-)

Do you have a link to bands page so we can here some of songs?

It is quite challenging, but really fun. I have shot concerts for friends bands since 2002, starting with film, then with a Nikon D200, then with the D7000. It is way much easier now with the D7000 than ever before, but having glass at f/2.8 at least is still what you need, but with the high ISO range you can shoot at speeds higher than 1/60, which makes a lot of difference. You still shoot with spot metering, trying to catch people’s face as they move, and you shoot like crazy. I did about 650 exposures in 80 minutes on that show.

The new cameras have more options. It is a tool, does nothing without an artistic mind behind the viewfinder. I take great pictures with the camera on my Galaxy Tab 7″. I would not shoot a concert with it though.

Yea, the fast lens helps a ton, I shot with a 1.8 but with my wonderful camera lol, it has a front focusing issue and unfortunately has no way to adjust this so shooting at 1.8 with it produces less than desirable results. Thanks for the spot metering tip, I think I was using the standard metering setting on M mode. I’m shooting another concert at the end of March and I’ll mess with that.

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Mandrake said

Daniela… Unlike many recent photo postings, the camera settings are actually available in the file’s properties.
f/2.8, 1/100 sec., 17mm, bias, -0.7, no flash and……………… ISO-4000 (that’s 3 zeros).

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Hi mandrake, I don’t know how to check the picture properties on the forum and the magnifying glass icon of the forum doesn’t seem to work…but thanks for the info.
I have a D7000 and lots of problems with the ISO mainly in low light situations. The most bearable ISO for me is 1250, above that picture degradates. I’m a medium format fan, although I don’t have one, but I’m very fascinated by the perfection of forms, colours and details on photography. Of course in a live concert is not recomended to use huge and slow cameras, but I once saw a picture of some live performances and hockey match of a photographer called Jared Polin, taken with a D3s with 8000 ISO and I saw it on flickr at very big size and there is no noise at all, but skin and shapes are nice even he may applied some noise reduction.

About noise reduction in LR, I’m not a big fan because it deforms things and gives a wax look on people faces, it loses detail because disguises noise black pixels into color pixels and it’s a process in the sofware that also results in deteoration of the image quality. I don’t say we cannot use noise reduction, but use it wisely about 20% maximum and then zoom it to see what happens to the image and see if you notice some wax-kind-of-look. Cool

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Daniela said I don’t know how to check the picture properties on the forum and the magnifying glass icon of the forum doesn’t seem to work…but thanks for the info. Cool

Daniela… To see the camera settings… right click on the photo and save the image to your computer. Then right click on the saved image, choose properties, and then click on the “details” tab. Scroll down and you will see the various camera settings. I have a PC. It may be different on a MAC, if that’s what you have.

Sometimes the camera settings are left blank. They can be removed before uploading, but I don’t know why one would want to. Also, I think that if one of the camera’s presets are used such as “pets” or “portrait” then the settings may also not be available in the file’s properties.

(Jared Polin should get a haircut and yes………… we all know that he shoots RAW.}

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February 19, 2013
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@Daniela, there is a reason the full-frame high end cameras are more than $3000. I saw a video where Jared used a D7000 to shoot concerts, and he was very satisfied. Of course, if you look at the 1:1 image, like I posted here, there will be noise, but you will not be using the image that big. I understand that you are medium format fan. I had a Leica kit for many years, and I sold it off to start using digital, and there is a difference. The images were awesome directly on the slide, I did not have to spend 20 minutes thinkering with it in photoshop/lightroom to get the contrast and look that I like.

We have to work with what we have.

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February 20, 2013
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Shure bruno, and in Portugal with a 23% of tax applied to the final consumer a D4 could cost above 5000 euros.
Glad you know Jared’s work. He is a well known photographer in the music business. I also saw the video and shoots you mentioned from his D7000. Don’t get me wrong, I loved your picture. It’s very colourfull and you were able to grab the mood, I was just making some considerations about the ISO on the D7000 from my experience on it. :) Yes you are right about the printing size, but I make photography of architecture among other stuff, and sometimes is necessary to print books with A4 format, like a full page or double page of a magazine…42x21cm and all the quality is necessary. Shure we have to work with what we have, and the D7000 could do a lot.
Cheers.

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@Daniela, for architecture work, I would leave it at iso100, and use a long exposure time. The nature of concert photography is that you need to freeze the motion of the musicians, and most are playing in badly lit caves… Constraints that are really difficult to work with.

I shoot raw, too. ;)

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